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This is Our Design #27: “Antipasto”



This is 2015. This is the Year of the Sheep. This is the summer television season. This is Sound On Sight. This is Our Design.

At long last, Hannibal returns to NBC for its third season (a first for visionary creator Bryan Fuller). Accompanying its return is the dedicated podcast co-hosted by Sean Colletti and Kate Kulzick. For the season three premiere, the crew is joined by the fellow Hannibal podcast crew of Eat the Rudecast: Cooper, Miko and Ophilia. An elaborate set-up for an elaborate series. Dr. Lecter would be proud (or he would eat all of us; both are acceptable, as far as we’re concerned). On this Italian excursion, the panel talks about storytelling, aesthetics vs. ethics, observation vs. participation, complicity, Dante and the inevitability of what’s to come following the events of “Antipasto”. But before that, feast your ears on the new recurring segment for TiOD: “Hannibal by the Numbers,” in which Sean does needlessly painstaking work and countless pauses during viewings to tally numbers of lines of dialog and scenes for his own nefarious purposes. Following the bulk of the discussion, the triumphant returns of “Kate’s Classical Corner” and “The Devil in the Details” round out your listening experience, which will be fully satisfactory or your money back! You can also contact the hosts at thisisourdesign666[at]gmail.com or leave a comment here or on iTunes (Twitter accounts are below). We appreciate all your feedback and, as a reward, are giving away a free copy of the first season of Hannibal on DVD, the winner of which will be announced on next week’s podcast. Ciao!


Outro Music: Iced Earth – “Dante’s Inferno”

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  1. Tyblistaire says

    I’m so glad that you guys are back with the new season!

    1. Kate Kulzick says

      Thanks for listening, Tyblistaire!

  2. schizopolis says

    Did the Anthony character remind anyone of Tom Ripley?? Once he said during the dinner that he only travels alone, I immediately thought this character might be a homage to Ripley. Didn’t Damon’s Ripley use a bust to kill Philip Seymour Hoffman’s character in the film?

  3. 666 says

    I think Bedelia didn’t wanted to shot Lecter because she’s curious to finally see him without his person suit.
    Is wrong to say she “couldn’t shot him” because in reality she chose not to kill him instead like one of the girls clarifies at the end (sorry I don’t know your name, sorry!).

    Remember how Hannibal always wanted to make Will to kill and when he killed Randall Tier that kill doesn’t count because it was in self defense so he only bought Will’s lie after he “kill” and eat Freddie. At the end, Lecter tells him to kill Mason and he says no.

    And that’s the difference between Will and Bedelia.

    Amazing podcast like always!

    PS: the bust is Aristotle :D

  4. FictionIsntReal says

    I would like to subscribe to your contest/newsletter.

    It seems rather temporally limited to compare Hannibal vs Mad Men for best show ever. Also, one of the Laws of the Internet is that the correct answer is The Wire.

    Wikipedia gives a very different account of Pietro della Vigna. He bashed his own brains out in a dungeon rather than hanging himself. He is placed with suicides rather than betrayers, perhaps because he was innocent of betrayal. That section of Dante was depicted by William Blake, a nice tie in to the second half of the season. It was also depicted by Raoul Ruiz when he ruined A TV Dante, but that’s neither here nor there.

    I disagree that all Hannibal’s victims are portrayed as assholes. Dimmond might think Roman Fell is an asshole, but he hardly seems to have great judgement. Nor do we know anything about Lydia Fell, other than that she & Dimmond don’t like each other.

    Cooper thinks the use of synth was a nod to Manhunter. Alan Sepinwall thought the motorcycle was the Mann homage. Despite how fitting it would be, I can’t recall Michael Mann doing much with motorcycles. However, a commenter noted the stylized view of combustion bore similarities to the depiction of computer communication in the intro to Blackhat.

    1. Kate Kulzick says

      Hey FictionIsntReal- Don’t worry, I’m not saying Hannibal is the best show ever, just the best show on right now. Thanks for listening, as ever!

  5. Christine says

    Love the podcast – it’s great to hear in-depth discussion of Hannibal. Hardly anyone I know watches it, and it doesn’t seem to be widely recapped either.

    The bust was of Aristotle – it says the name on the base, you can see it in one of the shots. I can’t remember if there’s been any references to Aristotle on the show already, though.

    You guys were talking about how there aren’t any other shows that do dark humor well – I would argue that Mad Men had some brilliant dark humor.


    The lawnmower (of course), Mrs Blankenship, Pete’s mother’s death, Peggy stabbing Abe. All hilarious, and all involving death or maiming!

    Yes, I’m still mourning the end of Mad Men, and Hannibal is my only consolation. Probably my top two shows of all time.

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